Reponse to 'IIPM Students'
Over the past three days, I have gone through a whole lot of blogs that have written about the IIPM expose. I shall not be adding anything to the stuff that people have managed to unearth about IIPM, Arindam and Malay.
Here is the long and short of it:
Dilip D'Souza has managed to unearth a certain fine print in IIPM ads that talks of
"inferiority complex and intellectually dwarfed unquestioning attitude that the industry and the media have developed towards the IIMs over the years."
Arzan and Gawker have some great stuff on IIPM's international alliances. It seems all of them have lookalike websites.
Thalassa Mikra has managed to dig up some great stuff about Malay. It seems Berlin School of Economics, from where Malay did his Ph.D. in he year 1963, was actually founded in 1971. Maybe, he is a doctorate in spin-doctoring.
This post is essentially my response to all those so-called IIPM students who have left comments (at times, distasteful) on other's blogs and made a public display of their ignorance, and more often than not, making an utter ass of themselves.
1. Bloggers have been classified as losers, a bunch of jobless, senseless, pathetic, ridiculous bloaks.
2. We have been asked to stop blogging and start working.
3. All the bloggers have been assumed to be IIM pass-outs.
4. They have questioned JAM Mag's right to question IIPM's credibility. In fact, some have gone to the extent of saying, "If IIPM students do not mind it, why do bloggers?"
In between all this, some have 'thrown light' on the jealous attitude of IIM towards IIPM and some have labelled the entire issue as 'Bloggers Freedom of Speech'.
Let me clarify the last point, first. This is not about 'Bloggers Freedom of Speech'. This is about Freedom of Speech. PERIOD!!! Bloggers are just incidental or facilitators in this controversy. True, this might actually have far-reaching consequences on cyber-laws in India, if and when. But, we all are opinionated individuals. We have a right to have our opinions and express them. We are not living in an Orwellian world with Thought Police controlling our minds. If we cannot agree, we can certainly agree to disagree. But you, not seconding my opinion, will not change mine.
I am not an IIM grad. I am from one of those non IIM-A/B/C/L top-10 institutes in India. We always looked up at IIM's and said, "Hey, this is where our insti should be." We never made lofty claims at being better than them. Because, we always knew, they were a touch ahead of us. No, I am not an IIM-crony. But, let's face facts. Any and every non-IIM guy would want to be in one. So, any claims of "IIM is jealous of IIPM" is not just deplorable but utterly laughable. In fact, why even have the punchline "Dare to dream beyond the IIM's"? The word 'Dare' itself carries negative connotations. Read, Risk. Try and run your insti as best as you can, and with sincere efforts, who knows, you might become the best. Who knows, there might arise a scenario in the future, where aspiring students would not even have to 'Dare' to dream their way into IIPM. If your insti is really good, the dreams would come naturally.
Also, all the name-calling and abuses by these 'IIPM students' are nothing but, the handiwork of a deranged mind. In this case, many deranged minds. How does Rashmi being a lesbian or bloggers being losers absolve IIPM of its guilt? And, aren't you causing more harm to IIPM's fast-dwindling-whatever-is-remaining reputation by stooping to such pathetic levels? Maybe, we all are wrong. But, you calling us 'truck load of clowns', does not solve the matter. And, I thought, one is taught problem-solving in a managemnt course. Maybe, Arindam has taken the concept of Brainstorming to its next level, Blamestorming.
Various bloggers have asked pointed and pertinent questions regarding the credibility of IIPM and Arindam and Malay. There have been no clarifications. Judicially notarized e-mails are NOT clarifications. If you think, IIPM does not see the need to reply to allegations by 'a million losers', do not question our right to seek answers. We have as much right to ask questions, as you do, not to answer them.
Also, the logic of "If IIPM students do not mind, why do bloggers" is essentially a flawed one. Frankly, in my opinion, if you people do not care, I do not care as well. That is, for you people. But, what I do care for, are the future generations of prospective students. In my opinion, IIPM has indulged in prostitutising education. It is a business venture, built on the pillars of lies and deceipt. Its nothing short of a miracle, that it has managed to stay afloat all these years. Maybe, its because, people were less information-savvy than what they are today. There is so much of information at our disposal, that the possibility of such con-jobs going unnoticed is very minimal. As its said, 'Internet is the Mother of all Lie-busters'.
If even a single person walks upto me and says, "Thanks. If I hadn't known about the IIPM farce, I would have joined it.", my work would be done.
IIPM has existed way beyond its Life Expectancy. Here's wishing it a slow, painful death.
Here is the long and short of it:
Dilip D'Souza has managed to unearth a certain fine print in IIPM ads that talks of
"inferiority complex and intellectually dwarfed unquestioning attitude that the industry and the media have developed towards the IIMs over the years."
Arzan and Gawker have some great stuff on IIPM's international alliances. It seems all of them have lookalike websites.
Thalassa Mikra has managed to dig up some great stuff about Malay. It seems Berlin School of Economics, from where Malay did his Ph.D. in he year 1963, was actually founded in 1971. Maybe, he is a doctorate in spin-doctoring.
This post is essentially my response to all those so-called IIPM students who have left comments (at times, distasteful) on other's blogs and made a public display of their ignorance, and more often than not, making an utter ass of themselves.
1. Bloggers have been classified as losers, a bunch of jobless, senseless, pathetic, ridiculous bloaks.
2. We have been asked to stop blogging and start working.
3. All the bloggers have been assumed to be IIM pass-outs.
4. They have questioned JAM Mag's right to question IIPM's credibility. In fact, some have gone to the extent of saying, "If IIPM students do not mind it, why do bloggers?"
In between all this, some have 'thrown light' on the jealous attitude of IIM towards IIPM and some have labelled the entire issue as 'Bloggers Freedom of Speech'.
Let me clarify the last point, first. This is not about 'Bloggers Freedom of Speech'. This is about Freedom of Speech. PERIOD!!! Bloggers are just incidental or facilitators in this controversy. True, this might actually have far-reaching consequences on cyber-laws in India, if and when. But, we all are opinionated individuals. We have a right to have our opinions and express them. We are not living in an Orwellian world with Thought Police controlling our minds. If we cannot agree, we can certainly agree to disagree. But you, not seconding my opinion, will not change mine.
I am not an IIM grad. I am from one of those non IIM-A/B/C/L top-10 institutes in India. We always looked up at IIM's and said, "Hey, this is where our insti should be." We never made lofty claims at being better than them. Because, we always knew, they were a touch ahead of us. No, I am not an IIM-crony. But, let's face facts. Any and every non-IIM guy would want to be in one. So, any claims of "IIM is jealous of IIPM" is not just deplorable but utterly laughable. In fact, why even have the punchline "Dare to dream beyond the IIM's"? The word 'Dare' itself carries negative connotations. Read, Risk. Try and run your insti as best as you can, and with sincere efforts, who knows, you might become the best. Who knows, there might arise a scenario in the future, where aspiring students would not even have to 'Dare' to dream their way into IIPM. If your insti is really good, the dreams would come naturally.
Also, all the name-calling and abuses by these 'IIPM students' are nothing but, the handiwork of a deranged mind. In this case, many deranged minds. How does Rashmi being a lesbian or bloggers being losers absolve IIPM of its guilt? And, aren't you causing more harm to IIPM's fast-dwindling-whatever-is-remaining reputation by stooping to such pathetic levels? Maybe, we all are wrong. But, you calling us 'truck load of clowns', does not solve the matter. And, I thought, one is taught problem-solving in a managemnt course. Maybe, Arindam has taken the concept of Brainstorming to its next level, Blamestorming.
Various bloggers have asked pointed and pertinent questions regarding the credibility of IIPM and Arindam and Malay. There have been no clarifications. Judicially notarized e-mails are NOT clarifications. If you think, IIPM does not see the need to reply to allegations by 'a million losers', do not question our right to seek answers. We have as much right to ask questions, as you do, not to answer them.
Also, the logic of "If IIPM students do not mind, why do bloggers" is essentially a flawed one. Frankly, in my opinion, if you people do not care, I do not care as well. That is, for you people. But, what I do care for, are the future generations of prospective students. In my opinion, IIPM has indulged in prostitutising education. It is a business venture, built on the pillars of lies and deceipt. Its nothing short of a miracle, that it has managed to stay afloat all these years. Maybe, its because, people were less information-savvy than what they are today. There is so much of information at our disposal, that the possibility of such con-jobs going unnoticed is very minimal. As its said, 'Internet is the Mother of all Lie-busters'.
If even a single person walks upto me and says, "Thanks. If I hadn't known about the IIPM farce, I would have joined it.", my work would be done.
IIPM has existed way beyond its Life Expectancy. Here's wishing it a slow, painful death.
posted by Dhananjay Shettigar at 10/16/2005 09:30:00 PM
10 Comments:
Absolutely great article!!! Makes a lot of sense!!
If there has been one institute which has taken on the IIMs that would be without a shadow of doubt ISB, Hyderabad. They have not been existence for that long . But still there have been examples of people dumping IIM-A for the lucrative lateral placements ISB offers.
But they never openly stake the claim that they are better than the IIMs. But increasingly people accept it as a great institute and for some like me it is better than the IIMs. They have created a niche for themselves among the aspiring B-School students. They just tried to improve themselves rather than taking on other institutes. They charge a bomb for their MBA much much higher than a IIPM. But still they are a force to be reckoned with .
Had IIPM tried to improve itself throughout these years, who knows they would have ranked among the top 10. But then their approach is seriously flawed and now it seems their is no escape from the inevitable.
The IIPM is the biggest facade ever!!!
Has anyone ever seen Blogspot,GOOGLE or Yahoo advertising ?? If the product is really that good why is the need to advertise it?
Similarly any IIM advertising for seats?? If IIPM were any good ,,, Where is the need for those full page advertisemens??
Good Post,
Wishing IIPM a PATHETIC DEATH!!!
Hari
(Not an MBA)
GAURAV SABNIS,IS AN IIPM STUDENT CURRENTLY, IIPM RIVAL GAURAV JOINED IIPM…………WHAT A STUPIDITY!!!!!!!!!!!! HA, HA,,,,,,, WHO WILL BELIEVE ANYONES STATEMENTS..A MUMBAI BASED LOWYER, MR. AMOD PRANJAPE SAYS IN THIS PARTICULAR IIPM CASE, BOTH RASHMI BANSAL AND GAURAV SABNIS ARE IN THE RIGHT TRACK..RASHMI WRITES ALWAYS NEGATIVE OF IIPM….HAVE SHE BEEN IIPM CAMPUS PERSONALLY???? ..THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO EVERYTHING......
Its clear that only confirmed morons have joined IIPM in the past and there will be many confirmed morons who will join IIPM in the future. No amount of blogging can save any moron from joining IIPM. So IIPM management have actually proved that (a) they are morons when they sued and protested. (b) they don't know that they are morons and need bloggers to tell them that. (c) they don't know that their students are morons and need bloggers to tell them that
@ Abhishek - Thanks, Man...
@ KK - Yeah, I agree with you completely. ISB has indeed managed to carve a niche for itself in the Indian B-School jungle.
@ Hari - IIPM is a circus, a joke, a con operation, etc, etc. Words defeat me.
@ Anonymous#1 - Where's your grammer, dude? BTW, after reading your comment, I am a bit confused as to which side are you on. And, this real gaurav sabnis makes me laugh.
@ Anonymous#2 - I have nothing personal against IIPM students. They may or may not be morons. But, IIPM management...well they certainly are :o)
Hey KK
ISB is the next to be exposed. Its hugely under debt and the sponsors are sick of bailing it again and again. Their placement stats are a huge fraud as they use averages calculated on multiple offers for the same student. The ROI for students is hugely negative as most students get lousy jobs. Only morons will give up IIM admissions for ISB - in any case the morons deserve ISB! The IIMs are full of students who had ISB offers that they spurned to join IIM. The so called world class faculty at ISB are usually the lousy faculty from B grade US Schools who are looking for a paid holiday in India.
This was a great article Dhanajay.
IIPM is a fraud. Ny cousin can't even string a sentence together. He is actually dull. Still got selected for IIPM.... Only because he could pay a tuition fees.. The IIPM management is actually exploiting ignorant people of India. I know a guy who got admission in IIPm after taking a loan from the bank.. Imagine he will have to pay interest for studying in such pathetic institute....
I am a current IIPM Bangalore student. I wish to inform all the MBA aspirants not to join IIPM as they just keep on increasing their fees every year and to my shock I discovered that the fee as on today's date in more than 8.5 lakhs. The Planman team of this college is really rude and impolite.Always taking undue advantage of their ppowes given to them.
To Hell with IIPM bangalore
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